One thing that puzzled me is why aren’t we allowed to use handphone at a petrol station. Is it really that dangerous? Will a handphone cause fire at a petrol station? Were there any past incident?
Well, actually it’s not dangerous to use handphone at a petrol station. The mythbusters did an experiment to proof that it is safe.
But of course, some of you might say its just a TV program. It’s really up to you to believe or not.
on Oct 13th, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Then you go and use when aircraft is landing lor.
on Oct 13th, 2009 at 1:31 PM
There are people who leave their phones on during take-off or landing (and even during flights), probably accidentally; but it hasn’t led to any anomaly reports by pilots, nor has it led to any air incidents.
Asking people to turn their phones off is a rule mandated by law as a pre-caution, and not indicative of a definitive threat to the safety of the flight.
The same goes for the usage of mobile devices at a petrol station.
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on Oct 13th, 2009 at 2:20 PM
you can use flight mode
on Oct 13th, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Meo: How did this discussion become using handphone when plane is landing?
Anyway, some airline are looking into that now. Currently, there are a few airline that allows you to use mobile phone during in flight. Example: Emirates Airline
on Oct 13th, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Well since you believe it is a hoax, then will you also believe using it during take off or landing is also a hoax?
BTW, it’s only during landing and taking off that you need to switch off. Other than that you are free to switch on or use it any how u want.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Meo:
That is incorrect. The rules state that mobile phones need to be switched off at all times, not just during take-off or landing. Furthermore, regardless of whether it is actually safe to leave the mobile phone on during flight, there is no reason why anyone would deliberately use the phone at that time, because it is against the law.
I assure you that nobody here is implying that both assertions are hoaxes. As I’ve mentioned, it is a precaution set by authorities due to insufficient evidence on the safety of using mobile devices during flight, and at the petrol station. So far, there are no conclusive studies or evidences that point either way on these two situations.
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on Oct 14th, 2009 at 8:34 AM
pkchukiss
You never take aircraft before ah? I can assure you it is only take off and landing you need to switch it off. The captain will announce it and say something like all electronic devices including mobiles must be off coz it will affect radio interference. When you are up on air, it doesn’t really matter because you probably won’t get the signal anyway.
I can assure you that DK is telling us it is a hoax because he believe this
“The mythbusters did an experiment to proof that it is safe.”
and he still go on and say
“But of course, some of you might say its just a TV program. ”
Quite frankly he didnt tell us what we already know. Before he made this post, everyone dunno. After he made this post, everyone still dunno.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 8:40 AM
pkchukiss
It’s only during critical phases of flight (takeoff, approach, and landing) that you need to switch off.
http://www.wisegeek.com/why-do-all-electronics-have-to-be-turned-off-for-takeoff-and-landing.htm
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-safety-security/750393-personal-electronic-devices-takeoff-landing.html
Of course DK is welcome to start another article, is it SAFE to use anything during take off or landing.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Meo: I didn’t mention anything about airplane. Don’t put words in my mouth.
Like I said already, someone did an experiment on it and interviewed the experts. It’s really up to you to believe or not. If you don’t believe it, ok lor. Why so worked out?
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 10:48 AM
When have I put words into your mouth Mr Kang? You talk about petrol station I cannot talk about aircraft?
Common sense tell us that both have same grey areas and both have not been proven.
I can also get an expert to take off in a plane and prove to you thta it WOULD NOT crash the plane. But does it mean it would be 100% safe every single time?
As such I don understand the purpose of your posting because it doesnt tell us anything more than what we already know.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Meo: I still don’t understand. Why are you so worked out over 1 blog entry? Still can’t get over the blog entry where I told you not to call police when there is an earthquake?
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 11:25 AM
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on Oct 14th, 2009 at 11:48 AM
You the one who worked up and call me worked up? LOL…I am as cool as I can be mate.
I am just speaking facts. If you believe this kind of unproven ‘expert telling you what to do in petrol station, then you should be easy to be bought over using any kind of ‘expert theories’ when using phones in aircraft too.
Bottom of the line, there are no proven or no unproven thing you’re trying to say. Everything still is as grey as before you post your article. Therefore there are simply nothing new. You didn’t tell us anything we didn’t know. It is a tautology.
And when I tried take you out of the loop, you flared. Calling me worked up. All I did was trying to point some facts to you mah. Like that also kanna from you. Debate the issue if you got ‘liao’, put the personal attacks aside. I have not once described you up to this post but you keep push the debate downw that road.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 11:50 AM
And lastly you accused me of putting words into your mouth, when and where did I do that? Kindly reference your accusation if you want to do it this way. If yu cannot, i expect an apology.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Meo: I didn’t say anything about Airplane and you are here insisting that I will say it is safe to use handphone while the plane is landing. If this is not putting words in my mouth, I really don’t understand what is.
And I never use personal attack on you. I’m just asking why are you so worked out over one blog entry. Is that considered a personal attack? If that is, then my apologies.
And its not that I don’t want to debate the issue. Your comment is totally unrelated to this blog entry.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Mythbusters FTW! One of my favorite Discovery Channel programs
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Fact: If you knock your head on the pillow once you’ll probably feel some discomfort, mild pain and perhaps even feel a little disorientated.
Fact: If you knock you head on the wall once you’ll probably suffer some injury, intense pain and even get brain concussion.
Fact 2 does not dismiss or disprove Fact 1. For someone to make a big fuss about Fact 1 being in error using Fact 2 is short of lunacy, if not insanity.
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on Oct 14th, 2009 at 1:02 PM
If it is SAFE for you to use at petrol station then it must be SAFE for you to use in aircraft too because I can call myself an expert and lets go and take a flight together while I switch on my mobile phone and prove to you that it WON’T crash.
Get the drift yet? I doubt. I cannot expect you to understand because since you can believe this kind of theory.
Why not you go and drive at 300km/hr on ECP and tell the police that you DID NOT crash so therefore it is SAFE. And along the way you can classify yourself as an EXPERT.
LOL. Get the drift yet? Still no right? Told you it’s beyond your league.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 1:11 PM
I didn’t say anything about Airplane and you are here insisting that I will say it is safe to use handphone while the plane is landing.
Which part of my sentence INSIST YOU SAY IT IS SAFE?
It is your hallucination or is it me? The more I talk to you the more tulan I get. You are surely one dude who lives in your own illusion.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Try bringing a cellphone into an oil refinery or a gas compressor station and you will be sacked immediately.
Look up “Intrinsically Safe” (IS) electronics and you will see that it’s quite possible for cellphones, 2 way radios etc to cause ignition. It’s rare but a risk you don’t want to take.
AC, low voltage DC and analog control circuits have to go through intrinsically safe barriers before leaving the PLC panels and out into the field when you are dealing with a potentially explosive atmosphere.
Mythbusters is highly entertaining but they aren’t scientists – they are SFX guys.
Don’t assume everything you see on TV is true
source : http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081116020523AA5xhLN
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Meo: If you are feeling tulan, there is always a red button with a ‘x’ on the top right hand corner of your browser. (left hand corner if you are using Mac)
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Ok then, bye.
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 1:47 PM
It has been proven time and again that using a mobile at a petrol station is not unsafe.
source : http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081116020523AA5xhLN
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 1:48 PM
The causes of petrol station forecourt fires is static electricity building up in the hoses and triggers. We don’t get this problem here in the UK because the trigger does not lock like they often do in the States. The fact that you have to stand there holding the pump handle while you fill your tank means that the static has an easy route to earth so that it never builds up into a dangerously high level.
With locking triggers there is no route to earth so there is the potential for a spark as you reach out to take the handle when the pump stops. This can be dangerous because the site of the spark is right by the open filler neck where the air is going to be particularly enriched with fuel vapours.
I have no idea what science was behind the ban on the use of mobile phones on petrol station forecourts, but I think it was a case of exercising caution with a comparatively unknown technology. It certainly hasn’t saved any lives, but that’s probably because none were at risk to start off with.
source : http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081116020523AA5xhLN
on Oct 14th, 2009 at 6:08 PM
At Meo, who probably won’t be reading this:
All electronic devices must be switched off during landing and take-off, while all mobile phones must be switched off for the entire duration of the flight. Anybody who actually does take a plane would understand this.
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